The Son of Perdition

Justinian - The Little Horn - Perdition

The Connection Through the Scriptures:

I am going to do my very best to portray all this information I have on this topic however it all connects in a complex way so I would hope that you would refer to the Son of Perdition Scroll if you can’t follow what I’m saying, Thank you.

At first thought most people feel there is only one reference to The Son of Perdition which is in II Thessalonians 2:2-4

King James Version,

2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (The Day of Christ 1820) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

"The Day of Christ" which is different from "The Coming of Christ." The "day of Christ" signifies the The First Vision and the End of the Apostasy.

However there are many more references to this man in the Scriptures.  

Daniel 7:7-8, 19-26

7After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

 8I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

 19Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

 20And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

 21I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

 22Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

 23Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

 24And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

 25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

 26But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

Explanation of Daniel 7:7-8, 19-26:

The Roman Emerors:

BYZANTINE EMPERORS 

Roman Empire is divided in 395AD Theodosius I, passed away 395 and the empire divided in two parts.  The eastern or Byzantine Empire (Greek) and the Western Empire (Rome)

  Theodosius, Arcadius and Honorius were plucked up in a scriptural sense literally (not to be counted again in Revelations 17:10) 

Justinian vs Nero as the Son of Perdition

   
The Contrast of Justinian's knowledge of Truth

How does all this History connect Perfectly to the Scriptures?  Let me Show you...

THE BEAST

History and the Perfect Scriptural Connection:

This clip from the Justinian Scroll is a little big so you will have to click on it to see the full size.

Do you still need more convincing? I thought you might.  In one of the previous posts we went through a timeline of the Seven Times. Starting from the battle of Thymbria and stretching 7 Times until Dec 2011 with the establishment of the New Jerusalem. We used a Time as 356.242199 days (1 Year = 365.242199 days) and using Ezekiel 4:6, "each Day for a Year" but a Times Time and the Dividing of Time is 2 Times + 1 Time + 1/2 Time = 1278.3476

  
So if the date when the Son of Perdition came into power being August 1st 527AD = 527.57357.


527.57357 + 1278.3476 = 1805.9211 Which is the Year 1805 and 2.2 days into DEC.


On Dec 2nd 1805AD Napoleon defeats the Austrian - Russian army under the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE to End the Empire at the battle of Austerlitz. (Band of Brass)  


Leviticus 26:19 And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:  


Daniel 4:23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;

Daniel 7: 7,8,19,20,21,25


⁷After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.


⁸I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.


¹⁹Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;



²⁰And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.


 ²¹I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;


²⁵And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


Many more to come...

   

Intelligence - Palmoni Scrolls

Introduction
This is the Topic that Took me the Longest to Grasp, I think, well maybe it just hurt my brain the most. Intelligence can sometimes have a dual-meaning or even a tri-meaning in the church. First is the most common which is just knowledge and education, second I think is the proper wise application of that knowledge, and third is an unorganized Intelligence, as in, Pre Spirit Book of Abraham kind of personage. I'm really not going to be talking at all about the first two meanings at all, only the third. 

Again Forgive my complete inability to put this all into words that make any sense and for the unorganized thought processes. Many of you will think this is complete speculation and that is good, some will see some truth and some will see more. And the fact is, that pretty much everyone I talk to completely disagrees with this. If anyone can add to or help me understand it better that would be Great! 

The Father and the Son
Ok... I guess I will start and jump into it with a Joseph Smith King Follett Discourse quote,

“What did Jesus do? Why; I do the things I saw my Father do when worlds come rolling into existence. My Father worked out his kingdom with fear and trembling, and I must do the same; and when I get my kingdom, I shall present it to my Father, so that he may obtain kingdom upon kingdom, and it will exalt him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation, and I will take his place, and thereby become exalted myself. So that Jesus treads in the tracks of his Father, and inherits what God did before; and God is thus glorified and exalted in the salvation and exaltation of all his children. It is plain beyond disputation, and you thus learn some of the first principles of the Gospel, about which so much hath been said.”

This is also shown in John 5:19-20,
5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise
5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

Ok so if Christ creating the Atonement lying down his life and taking it up again is only doing that which the Father in Heaven did then God the Father Must have been the Christ of a Previous Plan of Salvation. For now I’m not going to take this any farther but we will use it to jump into intelligences.

Now knowing that there was a Plan of Salvation Before this one, and that of course there is going to be a Plan of Salvation after this one, we know that there has to be unorganized intelligences ready to be organized into the next plan right now. We also know that because the Father was the Christ of a Previous Plan of Salvation that his Atonement had a Finite number of intelligences in it, also that there is a finite number of Sins. So this Plan of Salvation, with however many planets are in it only has a limited number of people. I might have just said the same thing a couple of times but lets keep going. I’m only talking about the 3 plans here, but, there are a infinite number of plan in both directions eternity to eternity. 

Red = The Plan of Salvation before this one, Blue = Our Plan of Salvation, Green = The Next Plan of Salvation

<------------Eternity-------->
Darkness <--------------------OOO-> Light

Infinite Levels, Finite Level, Intelligence and Us
So there must be, and this is kind of mentioned in Abraham 3:19, Infinite Levels of Intelligences but with a Finite number of unorganized intelligence within each level. The level closest to be organized would have the most light where as the lower levels of intelligence in eternal progression would have less light but would gain more light after every Plan. This is my mathematics professor friend's idea, about a formula which graphs a line that closer and closer and closer to Zero but never touches it. It can be said the same for intelligences, since there are infinite levels with lesser and lesser light into darkness but never fully dark half distances of Light. Christ at the time of Abraham 3:19 was the most intelligent or the most light, the since there is a Christ within every Level of Intelligence then he would be the most Light and intelligent in his own Level. 

I don’t know if anyone has followed me this far if not then it’s not essential to your salvation so don’t worry about it. You might even be way ahead of me I don’t know, but I will keep going.

So what are these intelligences? Do they Play a Role? Did we Do anything as an intelligence in the previous Plans of Salvation? What did Christ do? Did we Look to Christ as we to him now? You can come up with a lot of questions. But lets look at some scriptures and see where that goes.

So we know that at the Start of this Plan of Salvation we were unorganized intelligences. Then there was a council and a plan and then we were spiritually begotten and given Spirit Bodies. 

Doctrine & Covenants 93:29, Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. 

We were intelligence or the Light of Truth, and we know that intelligence is eternal and cannot be created or made. 

Doctrine and Covenants 93:23, "Ye were also in the beginning with the Father; that which is Spirit, even the Spirit of truth;"

We were also in the beginning with God as spirit even the Spirit of Truth... The Light of Truth, Intelligence, and Spirit of Truth directly reference to and coincide with, not respectively mind you, the Light of Christ, Spirit of Christ and the Holy Ghost.
These intelligences which we once were, are what make up the Breath of Life, Light of Christ, Spirit of Christ, and the Holy Ghost all working for our Salvation. There are many different names and references to all of these levels of the spirit in the scriptures. I know that Bruce R and Steven R Covey have given talks separating these organizations but... not like this.

The higher levels can like a Priest to a Deacon or Teacher fulfill their roles. So in the scriptures the Holy Ghost can be the Spirit of Christ or the Light of Christ, and the Spirit of Christ can be the Light of Christ. But the Light of Christ can’t be the Spirit of Christ or the Holy Ghost.

Fullness of the Holy Ghost

John 1:9 that was the true Light (Light of Christ) which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. If a man or woman follows the light of Christ it will lead him or her to the Church. They are then Taught the Gospel through the Missionaries and baptized and given the Gift of the Holy Ghost which is the Spirit of Christ (John 1:12, Ephesians 2:5,8,10). Then through diligence and obedience they increase in the Light of Christ and Spirit of Christ line upon line precept upon precept, being sanctified through the sacrament and the Blood of Christ, until they receive a Fullness of the Holy Ghost which is called a lot of things, Calling and Election is one of many. 

In his prayer of the dedication of the Kirtland, Ohio, LDS Temple, in 1836, the thirty-year-old Prophet Joseph implored;
... And do thou grand, Holy Father, that all those who shall worship in this house may be taught words of wisdom out of the best books, and that they may seek learning by study, and also by faith, as thou has said; and that they may grow up in thee, and receive a fullness of the Holy Ghost.


Common Sense Bodies

Bodies at the same Level of Existence can feel and touch each other Hence, Mortal being can see, feel and touch each other, in this mortal state we live in. The Morning Stars (Spirit Body plus an Intelligence which is inseparably connected together eternally) can also feel, see and touch each other at their level of existence. Intelligences are spirits, are men, are a personage of spirit, are an angel. They are very small in size. However they also are able to see, touch and feel each other at their level of existence.
Doctrine & Covenants 93:33 For Man is Spirit (i.e. an intelligence in a spirit body). The Elements are Eternal (i.e. the Body of the Spirit) and Spirit and Element, inseparably connected receive a fulness of joy. In our present state the mortal body is not inseparably connected to our spirit and will separate at our death. When we become Inseparably Connected to Mortal Bodies our Spirit body and Physical Body will become One. We shall be able to See, To touch, to Hold, To hear the Morning Stars (i.e. Intelligence and Spirit Body) and Satan will not be able to enter our bodies. 
Bodies at the same level of Existence cannot exist, nor enter the body of a like person. Bodies at different Levels of Existence can exist inside another Body. An Intelligence (man) can enter the body of a Spirit Body and Physical Body. An Intelligence exists in mortals such as the Holy Ghost and other intelligences which include the Spirit of Christ, the Light of Christ, The Breath of Life, all of which are men themselves all working for our Salvation. 
The only record we have of a Spirit Body entering a Physical body that isn’t it’s own is in Luke 8:30-33 when Legion entered the body of a Man. Legion was many devils and since spirit body can’t enter a spirit body there were able to be many spirits crammed into one body. The Holy Ghost does not work this way!

Intelligences and the Priesthood from the Dawn of Time:
Intelligences realize, that to progress from eternity to eternity... until it is their time to enter into Mortality, that they would need a leader who was Perfect. To this Man, this eternal priest afther the Holy Order of God, they gave their allegiance. They know the Laws that require a Sacrafice of a Sinless Man be made on their behalf, to bring about their own Salvation. 
We saints look to our Savior, the same way the intelligences do, to bring us back into the Father’s presence. The Savior is our leader, the way to eternal life!
According to Alma 5:44, the Priesthood is in Christ Jesus (i.e. the intelligences that is known as the Spirit of Christ or the Gift of the Holy Ghost), these intelligences (called Christ Jesus etc) are the ones who carry out all the ordinations in the church. (also see Philippians 1:1, 1 Corinthians 4:15, 2 Timothy 1:1) They are perfect to the law and we are not. Doctrine & Covenants 20:60, “Every elder, priest, teacher, or deacon is to be ordained according to the gifts and callings of God unto him; and he is to be ordained by the power of the Holy Ghost, which is in the one who ordains him.” Also see 1 John 2:27, “But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.”

The Father Son and thee Holy Ghost are one!
They are all Perfect Men who exist in Three different levels of existence. The Father being the most advanced intelligence, then follows the Son, then the Holy Ghost, the grandson. The Godhead is different than the presidency of heaven because the Godhead is perfect however Adam is not perfect. If Christ would have been the first flesh on earth, he being perfect, would not have disobeyed Father’s commandment, and there would have been No Fall. Romans 6:19For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Doctrine and Covenants 93:26 also identifies Jesus Christ with the title normally assigned to the Holy Ghost, namely the Spirit of Truth.

If the Holy Ghost was a Morning Star in the pre mortal existence how could He have dwelt in countless numbers of other Morning Stars, to bear witness of Jesus being the Son of God? Satan and his angels of which there are countless numbers, would have recieved the witness of the Holy Ghost within their elemental spirit bodies. This could only be achieved by countless numbers of intelligences called the Spirit of Truth (i.e. The Holy Ghost). Because Satan and his Angels denied this powerful witness of the Father’s Power (not the Son’s Power), that Jesus is His Son, they were cast out of heaven in accordance with the scripture Matthew 12:32 and Doctrine & Covenants 76:34. The Holy Ghost communicates a Powerful Spiritual Witness from Intelligence to our own Intelligence. 
Doctrine & Covenants 20:73 ...Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the Name of the FATHER and of the (name) of the SON and of the (name) of the HOLY GHOST amen.
This is very interesting when you compare with this scripture Acts 4:12, “Neither is there Salvation in any other: for there is none other name under Heaven given among men (mortals) whereby we must be saved.” 
The name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost must be the Same Name which is Jesus Christ. Because every Ordinance and Prayer that is done in the church is done in His Name.
The name that saves the christian is Jesus Christ and since it is the only name given where by man can be Save it stands to reason that... the Father’s Name must also be Jesus Christ so He save the Sons of God in the Times Past. Our Jesus Christ is Our Savior. Also it is imperative that the Name of the Holy Ghost is also Jesus Christ in order to save our future Spirit Children, Morning Stars. Job 38:7.

Enoch 46:1-3 "And there I saw One who had a head of days, And His head was white like wool, And with Him was another being whose countenance had the appearance of a man, And his face was full of graciousness, like one of the holy angels. 2 And I asked the angel who went with me and showed me all the hidden things, concerning that 3 Son of Man, who he was, and whence he was, (and) why he went with the Head of Days? And he answered and said unto me: This is the Son of Man who hath righteousness, With whom dwelleth righteousness, And who revealeth all the treasures of that which is hidden (Holy Ghost gives Scriptures II Peter 1:21), Because the Lord of Hosts hath chosen him, And whose lot hath the pre-eminence before the Lord of Hosts in uprightness for ever." 

Here one being, who was pure (head was white as wool symbolic), had, “a head of days” which is a holy ghost. Then we have another being who is Christ. The first being (Enoch) asks Christ, who, and whence he was, and why he went with “The Head of Days” who was The Holy Ghost(Luke 4:1-14). If this means that, then there was a holy ghost with Enoch and The Holy Ghost with Christ.

If the Holy Ghost:
If the Holy Ghost is Perfect like Christ but also has a spirit body then he could second for the Role of Christ. We all know Christ was not replaceable, Joseph Smith possibly, but not Christ. If the Holy Ghost was a Morning Star with a Spirit Body why did he not appear to Joseph Smith in the First Vision together with The Father and The Son... so Joseph could have seen all of the Godhead as Three Individual Beings and not Three in one? When Jesus was a Morning Star, he was seen by the Brother of Jared, Abraham, Moses, and other prophets. So why was the Perfect Holy Ghost not present at this revealing of the vision of the Godhead?
If the Holy Ghost is a Morning Star he would not be able to be inside the bodies of either the Father or the Son. However since thee Holy Ghost is an Intelligence there is no problem.
Thee Holy Ghost as a Morning Star would then be born a mortal on this earth being as he kept his first estate. So when will the Perfect Sinless Holy Ghost be Born? Who will this Perfect Man be? There are no scriptures that give us any detail about this very important mans birth. After all he is second to our Savior Jesus Christ.
Michael is Second to the Holy One. It is Michael who will hold the keys of salvation under Christ. Michael cannot be the Holy Ghost because the Holy Ghost is Perfect and Michael is not. Doctrine & Covenants 78:16, 88:114-115, 107:55.

The Next Jesus Christ and the Firstborn of our Elder Brother, is the current Holy Ghost. The current Holy Ghost is a Perfect Man who has never committed a sin and never will. He will be the Savior and the lamb of the Children of the gods. Moses 1:39

We will never be The Holy Ghost because we were a holy ghost as an intelligence, we will never be The Christ because we only do mortality once however do aid in bringing people into the gospel, we will never be The Father because Christ will be the Next God The Father and we will sit with him as part of the council of gods, however we will be a father and mother and have spirit children in the next plan, if we are in the Highest degree of the Cel Kingdom. 

One thing is for sure, God was never a Sinful Man and a sinful man can become a god but not God The Father. 


References
Holy Ghost Intelligence Palmoni Scrolls

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