Sunday, January 9, 2011

Intelligence - Palmoni Scrolls

This is the Topic that Took me the Longest to Grasp, I think, well maybe it just hurt my brain the most. Intelligence can sometimes have a dual-meaning or even a tri-meaning in the church. First is the most common which is just knowledge and education, second I think is the proper wise application of that knowledge, and third is an unorganized Intelligence, as in, Pre Spirit Book of Abraham kind of personage. I'm really not going to be talking at all about the first two meanings at all, only the third. 

Again Forgive my complete inability to put this all into words that make any sense and for the unorganized thought processes. Many of you will think this is complete speculation and that is good, some will see some truth and some will see more. And the fact is, that pretty much everyone I talk to completely disagrees with this. If anyone can add to or help me understand it better that would be Great! 

The Father and the Son
Ok... I guess I will start and jump into it with a Joseph Smith King Follett Discourse quote,

“What did Jesus do? Why; I do the things I saw my Father do when worlds come rolling into existence. My Father worked out his kingdom with fear and trembling, and I must do the same; and when I get my kingdom, I shall present it to my Father, so that he may obtain kingdom upon kingdom, and it will exalt him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation, and I will take his place, and thereby become exalted myself. So that Jesus treads in the tracks of his Father, and inherits what God did before; and God is thus glorified and exalted in the salvation and exaltation of all his children. It is plain beyond disputation, and you thus learn some of the first principles of the Gospel, about which so much hath been said.”

This is also shown in John 5:19-20,
5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise
5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

Ok so if Christ creating the Atonement lying down his life and taking it up again is only doing that which the Father in Heaven did then God the Father Must have been the Christ of a Previous Plan of Salvation. For now I’m not going to take this any farther but we will use it to jump into intelligences.

Now knowing that there was a Plan of Salvation Before this one, and that of course there is going to be a Plan of Salvation after this one, we know that there has to be unorganized intelligences ready to be organized into the next plan right now. We also know that because the Father was the Christ of a Previous Plan of Salvation that his Atonement had a Finite number of intelligences in it, also that there is a finite number of Sins. So this Plan of Salvation, with however many planets are in it only has a limited number of people. I might have just said the same thing a couple of times but lets keep going. I’m only talking about the 3 plans here, but, there are a infinite number of plan in both directions eternity to eternity. 

Red = The Plan of Salvation before this one, Blue = Our Plan of Salvation, Green = The Next Plan of Salvation

Darkness <--------------------OOO-> Light

Infinite Levels, Finite Level, Intelligence and Us
So there must be, and this is kind of mentioned in Abraham 3:19, Infinite Levels of Intelligences but with a Finite number of unorganized intelligence within each level. The level closest to be organized would have the most light where as the lower levels of intelligence in eternal progression would have less light but would gain more light after every Plan. This is my mathematics professor friend's idea, about a formula which graphs a line that closer and closer and closer to Zero but never touches it. It can be said the same for intelligences, since there are infinite levels with lesser and lesser light into darkness but never fully dark half distances of Light. Christ at the time of Abraham 3:19 was the most intelligent or the most light, the since there is a Christ within every Level of Intelligence then he would be the most Light and intelligent in his own Level. 

I don’t know if anyone has followed me this far if not then it’s not essential to your salvation so don’t worry about it. You might even be way ahead of me I don’t know, but I will keep going.

So what are these intelligences? Do they Play a Role? Did we Do anything as an intelligence in the previous Plans of Salvation? What did Christ do? Did we Look to Christ as we to him now? You can come up with a lot of questions. But lets look at some scriptures and see where that goes.

So we know that at the Start of this Plan of Salvation we were unorganized intelligences. Then there was a council and a plan and then we were spiritually begotten and given Spirit Bodies. 

Doctrine & Covenants 93:29, Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. 

We were intelligence or the Light of Truth, and we know that intelligence is eternal and cannot be created or made. 

Doctrine and Covenants 93:23, "Ye were also in the beginning with the Father; that which is Spirit, even the Spirit of truth;"

We were also in the beginning with God as spirit even the Spirit of Truth... The Light of Truth, Intelligence, and Spirit of Truth directly reference to and coincide with, not respectively mind you, the Light of Christ, Spirit of Christ and the Holy Ghost.
These intelligences which we once were, are what make up the Breath of Life, Light of Christ, Spirit of Christ, and the Holy Ghost all working for our Salvation. There are many different names and references to all of these levels of the spirit in the scriptures. I know that Bruce R and Steven R Covey have given talks separating these organizations but... not like this.

The higher levels can like a Priest to a Deacon or Teacher fulfill their roles. So in the scriptures the Holy Ghost can be the Spirit of Christ or the Light of Christ, and the Spirit of Christ can be the Light of Christ. But the Light of Christ can’t be the Spirit of Christ or the Holy Ghost.

Fullness of the Holy Ghost

John 1:9 that was the true Light (Light of Christ) which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. If a man or woman follows the light of Christ it will lead him or her to the Church. They are then Taught the Gospel through the Missionaries and baptized and given the Gift of the Holy Ghost which is the Spirit of Christ (John 1:12, Ephesians 2:5,8,10). Then through diligence and obedience they increase in the Light of Christ and Spirit of Christ line upon line precept upon precept, being sanctified through the sacrament and the Blood of Christ, until they receive a Fullness of the Holy Ghost which is called a lot of things, Calling and Election is one of many. 

In his prayer of the dedication of the Kirtland, Ohio, LDS Temple, in 1836, the thirty-year-old Prophet Joseph implored;
... And do thou grand, Holy Father, that all those who shall worship in this house may be taught words of wisdom out of the best books, and that they may seek learning by study, and also by faith, as thou has said; and that they may grow up in thee, and receive a fullness of the Holy Ghost.

Common Sense Bodies

Bodies at the same Level of Existence can feel and touch each other Hence, Mortal being can see, feel and touch each other, in this mortal state we live in. The Morning Stars (Spirit Body plus an Intelligence which is inseparably connected together eternally) can also feel, see and touch each other at their level of existence. Intelligences are spirits, are men, are a personage of spirit, are an angel. They are very small in size. However they also are able to see, touch and feel each other at their level of existence.
Doctrine & Covenants 93:33 For Man is Spirit (i.e. an intelligence in a spirit body). The Elements are Eternal (i.e. the Body of the Spirit) and Spirit and Element, inseparably connected receive a fulness of joy. In our present state the mortal body is not inseparably connected to our spirit and will separate at our death. When we become Inseparably Connected to Mortal Bodies our Spirit body and Physical Body will become One. We shall be able to See, To touch, to Hold, To hear the Morning Stars (i.e. Intelligence and Spirit Body) and Satan will not be able to enter our bodies. 
Bodies at the same level of Existence cannot exist, nor enter the body of a like person. Bodies at different Levels of Existence can exist inside another Body. An Intelligence (man) can enter the body of a Spirit Body and Physical Body. An Intelligence exists in mortals such as the Holy Ghost and other intelligences which include the Spirit of Christ, the Light of Christ, The Breath of Life, all of which are men themselves all working for our Salvation. 
The only record we have of a Spirit Body entering a Physical body that isn’t it’s own is in Luke 8:30-33 when Legion entered the body of a Man. Legion was many devils and since spirit body can’t enter a spirit body there were able to be many spirits crammed into one body. The Holy Ghost does not work this way!

Intelligences and the Priesthood from the Dawn of Time:
Intelligences realize, that to progress from eternity to eternity... until it is their time to enter into Mortality, that they would need a leader who was Perfect. To this Man, this eternal priest afther the Holy Order of God, they gave their allegiance. They know the Laws that require a Sacrafice of a Sinless Man be made on their behalf, to bring about their own Salvation. 
We saints look to our Savior, the same way the intelligences do, to bring us back into the Father’s presence. The Savior is our leader, the way to eternal life!
According to Alma 5:44, the Priesthood is in Christ Jesus (i.e. the intelligences that is known as the Spirit of Christ or the Gift of the Holy Ghost), these intelligences (called Christ Jesus etc) are the ones who carry out all the ordinations in the church. (also see Philippians 1:1, 1 Corinthians 4:15, 2 Timothy 1:1) They are perfect to the law and we are not. Doctrine & Covenants 20:60, “Every elder, priest, teacher, or deacon is to be ordained according to the gifts and callings of God unto him; and he is to be ordained by the power of the Holy Ghost, which is in the one who ordains him.” Also see 1 John 2:27, “But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.”

The Father Son and thee Holy Ghost are one!
They are all Perfect Men who exist in Three different levels of existence. The Father being the most advanced intelligence, then follows the Son, then the Holy Ghost, the grandson. The Godhead is different than the presidency of heaven because the Godhead is perfect however Adam is not perfect. If Christ would have been the first flesh on earth, he being perfect, would not have disobeyed Father’s commandment, and there would have been No Fall. Romans 6:19For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Doctrine and Covenants 93:26 also identifies Jesus Christ with the title normally assigned to the Holy Ghost, namely the Spirit of Truth.

If the Holy Ghost was a Morning Star in the pre mortal existence how could He have dwelt in countless numbers of other Morning Stars, to bear witness of Jesus being the Son of God? Satan and his angels of which there are countless numbers, would have recieved the witness of the Holy Ghost within their elemental spirit bodies. This could only be achieved by countless numbers of intelligences called the Spirit of Truth (i.e. The Holy Ghost). Because Satan and his Angels denied this powerful witness of the Father’s Power (not the Son’s Power), that Jesus is His Son, they were cast out of heaven in accordance with the scripture Matthew 12:32 and Doctrine & Covenants 76:34. The Holy Ghost communicates a Powerful Spiritual Witness from Intelligence to our own Intelligence. 
Doctrine & Covenants 20:73 ...Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the Name of the FATHER and of the (name) of the SON and of the (name) of the HOLY GHOST amen.
This is very interesting when you compare with this scripture Acts 4:12, “Neither is there Salvation in any other: for there is none other name under Heaven given among men (mortals) whereby we must be saved.” 
The name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost must be the Same Name which is Jesus Christ. Because every Ordinance and Prayer that is done in the church is done in His Name.
The name that saves the christian is Jesus Christ and since it is the only name given where by man can be Save it stands to reason that... the Father’s Name must also be Jesus Christ so He save the Sons of God in the Times Past. Our Jesus Christ is Our Savior. Also it is imperative that the Name of the Holy Ghost is also Jesus Christ in order to save our future Spirit Children, Morning Stars. Job 38:7.

Enoch 46:1-3 "And there I saw One who had a head of days, And His head was white like wool, And with Him was another being whose countenance had the appearance of a man, And his face was full of graciousness, like one of the holy angels. 2 And I asked the angel who went with me and showed me all the hidden things, concerning that 3 Son of Man, who he was, and whence he was, (and) why he went with the Head of Days? And he answered and said unto me: This is the Son of Man who hath righteousness, With whom dwelleth righteousness, And who revealeth all the treasures of that which is hidden (Holy Ghost gives Scriptures II Peter 1:21), Because the Lord of Hosts hath chosen him, And whose lot hath the pre-eminence before the Lord of Hosts in uprightness for ever." 

Here one being, who was pure (head was white as wool symbolic), had, “a head of days” which is a holy ghost. Then we have another being who is Christ. The first being (Enoch) asks Christ, who, and whence he was, and why he went with “The Head of Days” who was The Holy Ghost(Luke 4:1-14). If this means that, then there was a holy ghost with Enoch and The Holy Ghost with Christ.

If the Holy Ghost:
If the Holy Ghost is Perfect like Christ but also has a spirit body then he could second for the Role of Christ. We all know Christ was not replaceable, Joseph Smith possibly, but not Christ. If the Holy Ghost was a Morning Star with a Spirit Body why did he not appear to Joseph Smith in the First Vision together with The Father and The Son... so Joseph could have seen all of the Godhead as Three Individual Beings and not Three in one? When Jesus was a Morning Star, he was seen by the Brother of Jared, Abraham, Moses, and other prophets. So why was the Perfect Holy Ghost not present at this revealing of the vision of the Godhead?
If the Holy Ghost is a Morning Star he would not be able to be inside the bodies of either the Father or the Son. However since thee Holy Ghost is an Intelligence there is no problem.
Thee Holy Ghost as a Morning Star would then be born a mortal on this earth being as he kept his first estate. So when will the Perfect Sinless Holy Ghost be Born? Who will this Perfect Man be? There are no scriptures that give us any detail about this very important mans birth. After all he is second to our Savior Jesus Christ.
Michael is Second to the Holy One. It is Michael who will hold the keys of salvation under Christ. Michael cannot be the Holy Ghost because the Holy Ghost is Perfect and Michael is not. Doctrine & Covenants 78:16, 88:114-115, 107:55.

The Next Jesus Christ and the Firstborn of our Elder Brother, is the current Holy Ghost. The current Holy Ghost is a Perfect Man who has never committed a sin and never will. He will be the Savior and the lamb of the Children of the gods. Moses 1:39

We will never be The Holy Ghost because we were a holy ghost as an intelligence, we will never be The Christ because we only do mortality once however do aid in bringing people into the gospel, we will never be The Father because Christ will be the Next God The Father and we will sit with him as part of the council of gods, however we will be a father and mother and have spirit children in the next plan, if we are in the Highest degree of the Cel Kingdom. 

One thing is for sure, God was never a Sinful Man and a sinful man can become a god but not God The Father. 

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ChristianZ said...

"So why was the Perfect Holy Ghost not present at this revealing of the vision of the Godhead?"

What if he was but Joseph didn't mention it? I believe Joseph said he didn't reveal everything that occurred in the First Vision?

"Michael cannot be the Holy Ghost because the Holy Ghost is Perfect and Michael is not."

There's a number of misunderstandings evidenced by this statement. Keep studying and certain things will become clear.

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